Huge thanks to our Platinum Members Endace and LiveAction,
and our Silver Member Veeam, for supporting the Wireshark Foundation and project.

Ethereal-dev: Re: [Ethereal-dev] Suggested expansion of Expert Statistics

Note: This archive is from the project's previous web site, ethereal.com. This list is no longer active.

From: Ulf Lamping <ulf.lamping@xxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:22:54 +0200
Guy Harris wrote:

Ulf Lamping wrote:

No, please don't. The reason you've got such a rude criticism from me is simple. The current usability of the various statistics dialogs is really a bad thing. Take three various dialogs from the Statistics menu and you'll get three different ways to do things, and that's very bad IMHO. I think it's because people think about their problems and don't try to provide a "common look and feel".

...and perhaps because there's no common *code* to put up statistics dialogs, although now there probably is - the stats tree code.

Yes, having no common code is one main reason for the mess we have today. There are others as well, e.g. the "pre-dialog" to optionally enter a filter expression is just a "usability nightmare".

The stats tree code will hopefully work for many types of statistics. There may be other information where this might not be the best way to display things. However, if there are *reasons* to do something different than before it's ok, just to do something different than before "without real reasons" is not ...

BTW: the stats tree code seems to lack of important features like "Save" or "Copy" (I'd prefer Copy) and alike ...

Even this code still uses the "pre-filter" dialog, which is just a usability nightmare IMHO and nothing else. If a filtering option is presented to the user (which IMO is a good idea), it should be included into the display dialog (maybe through an "Advanced" button or such), but not forcing the user to "click through it". Most of the time the "simple" user won't use filtering for this (like me) and the newbie wants to see what this stat is all about. Having the filter dialog open after closing the stats dialog doesn't make things even better ...

If that common code lets most of the statistics-gathering be shared between Tethereal and Ethereal, with only the lower-level display code being different (but with that code being shared by all the statistics in Tethereal or by all the statistics in Ethereal), so much the better

That's of course a good way ...

(and if it means that the Ethereal code could also draw graphs at some point, with the individual statistics not having to know how to do that, that's even better).

I've doubts if that's possible, but having most of the stats share the same code is, of course, a *really* good idea :-)

Regards, ULFL