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Wireshark-users: Re: [Wireshark-users] Will EMF interference show up in Wireshark?

From: Kok-Yong Tan <ktan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:39:44 -0500

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011, at 16:10, Larry Dieterich wrote:

I'm troubleshooting a crashing Helix database server hosting 20-25 clients on a switched network.

The network is a combination of Wired and Wireless clients.

This an industrial setting with numerous motors and electric ovens and other potential source of EMF.

I am sniffing the wire connection to the server, looking for network- related causes of the crashes.

Note that only the Helix server software crashes, not the OS on the host hardware. All other functions provided by the server host machine seem normal at all times.

Currently, the Helix server crashes show on the wire as a pause of normal Helix I/O traffic, followed by FIN ACK packets sent from the server to the clients, this is followed by ACK packets from the clients to the server.

I'm trying to rule out EMF factors in the problem and I'm hoping that someone on this list has experience with computer or network problems caused my EMF.

My questions-

Would EMF interference manifest on the wire? If so, what sorts of packets or patterns should I be looking for in Wireshark?

Question is whether you'd even recognize it as due to EMF and not, say, a flakey NIC; or, broken wiring inside a still-intact cable; etc. Best way to tell whether EMF (or broken wiring) is an issue is to plug in, say, a Fluke DSP-4xxx/OmniScanner/DTX level meter or the equivalent and test the connection from end to end during the day when everything is running (i.e., with the motors, ovens, etc., running). Needless to say, they don't come cheap. But you can rent them. Or pay someone with them to do the job for you and provide you with a hardcopy/PDF report of their findings.

Does it seem unlikely that a problem related to EMF would only affect one software process on one computer?

It might or might not. Depends how strong the EMF is to the one computer it's crashing on; what's insulating the said computer, etc. Remember the Inverse Square Law. However, it does sound rather far- fetched without knowing more details. Of course, if your Helix server is sitting in the same room as one of the Large Hadron Collider's superconducting magnets at CERN, then yes! ;-)

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